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[Unfinished] "counter-based loops" tutorial available

 
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Alf P. Steinbach
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 6:38 am    Post subject: [Unfinished] "counter-based loops" tutorial available Reply with quote



I have to shop Christmas gifts (and clean up... Wink) before leaving
on Christmas holiday tomorrow, where I'll effectively be without a
network connection until January 6th, so I just posted what I have so
far -- which perhaps you'll find interesting!

This is the third but unfinished part of what hopefully will become a
technically _correct_ C++ newbie tutorial.

<url: http://home.no.net/dubjai/win32cpptut/w32cpptut_01_03.doc>.

Comments & criticism welcome (post here, please, don't mail).

I'll look at those comments in January -- or perhaps this evening.

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Ioannis Vranos
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 8:00 am    Post subject: Re: [Unfinished] "counter-based loops" tutorial available Reply with quote



Alf P. Steinbach wrote:

Quote:
I have to shop Christmas gifts (and clean up... Wink) before leaving
on Christmas holiday tomorrow, where I'll effectively be without a
network connection until January 6th, so I just posted what I have so
far -- which perhaps you'll find interesting!

This is the third but unfinished part of what hopefully will become a
technically _correct_ C++ newbie tutorial.

url: http://home.no.net/dubjai/win32cpptut/w32cpptut_01_03.doc>.

Comments & criticism welcome (post here, please, don't mail).

I'll look at those comments in January -- or perhaps this evening.


That is a nice effort and my main comment is why call it win32 in the
first place.


Apart from this, I think that a tutorial aimed for complete beginners
should be as simple as possible, while I think your approach is very
complex for a beginner.


I think you should not try to explain everything for a specific feature
altogether, but introduce simple things for each feature at first, and
then at a second "pass" introduce the more advanced concepts.



In any case, making the tutorial Win32 specific means it is not ISO C++
specific.




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Sharad Kala
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 8:30 am    Post subject: Re: [Unfinished] "counter-based loops" tutorial available Reply with quote




"Alf P. Steinbach" <alfps (AT) start (DOT) no> wrote in message

Quote:
I have to shop Christmas gifts (and clean up... Wink) before leaving
on Christmas holiday tomorrow, where I'll effectively be without a
network connection until January 6th, so I just posted what I have so
far -- which perhaps you'll find interesting!

This is the third but unfinished part of what hopefully will become a
technically _correct_ C++ newbie tutorial.

url: http://home.no.net/dubjai/win32cpptut/w32cpptut_01_03.doc>.

Comments & criticism welcome (post here, please, don't mail).

I skimmed through the tutorial and overall it looks good to me.
Some points though
- You mention Ken Thompson to be creator of C. That's Dennis Ritchie
actually.
- I haven't read the first lesson of your series but have you introduced the
term UB and what it means ? Also it may be a good idea to tell as to what
causes the loop to reach UB (probably in a footnote).
- Do you intend to introduce while/do-while too ? May be just in a couple of
paragraphs.
- I wish the tutorial wasn't targeted only for a Windows user. Else you
could add a few lines for Unix users too wherever you mention Windows stuff.

Sharad



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