C++Talk.NET C++ language newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  RoseRT to "clean c++"          C++Talk.NET Forum Index -> C++ language (comp.lang.c++) View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Petterson Mikael Guest Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:00 pm    Post subject: RoseRT to "clean c++" Hi, We are still using RoseRT to generate c++ code. Has anyone out there gone from using this tool another more convetional tool? I am interested in all hints and pointers. cheers, //mikael Back to top Bob Hairgrove Guest Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:00 pm    Post subject: Re: RoseRT to "clean c++" On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:03:33 +0100, Petterson Mikael <mikael.petterson (AT) era (DOT) ericsson.se> wrote: Quote: We are still using RoseRT to generate c++ code. Has anyone out there gone from using this tool another more convetional tool? I am interested in all hints and pointers. We went from Rose to Visio and now use UML strictly for documentation purposes. I'm just wondering how much of your C++ code is actually "generated" by Rose? We couldn't get it to do much more than just the headers, and even then there were serious deficiencies which had to be changed manually. Keeping the code in synch with the diagrams is pretty much a lost cause after you have t edit anything manually. After awhile, it got so bad that Rose was getting in the way more often than it helped, and we decided it wasn't worth the $$$ for the license fee. (Boy, was our boss glad about that!) And we haven't missed it. Now we use Visio just to draw up UML documentation of our code. One of the things Rose couldn't deal with was knowing when to use a pointer member and when a reference was better. There were issues with const, etc. Of course, it might have been possible to work around these problems, but nobody at work had the time to get a doctorate in using Rose and still get any work done. -- Bob Hairgrove NoSpamPlease (AT) Home (DOT) com Back to top Ivan Vecerina Guest Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 5:01 pm    Post subject: Re: RoseRT to "clean c++" "Petterson Mikael" <mikael.petterson (AT) era (DOT) ericsson.se> wrote in message news:drl6bl$t5k$1 (AT) news (DOT) al.sw.ericsson.se... : Hi, : : We are still using RoseRT to generate c++ code. Has anyone out there : gone from using this tool another more convetional tool? : I am interested in all hints and pointers. My experience had been similar to Bob's. Unfortunately, UML tools seem unable to express all the subtleties of C++. (the key issue I had at the time was lack of adequate support for 'const' data). In the end, we found it easier to use UML only to provide key views of the system when needed. In addition to that, using a kind of tool doing the reverse of RoseRT, one that generates documentation from the source code (and tags/comments), was found to be very helpful and convenient. Try doxygen if you aren't familiar with it yet: www.doxygen.org (an excellent free tool, unfortunately output is not UML-formatted) hth -Ivan -- http://ivan.vecerina.com/contact/?subject=NG_POST <- email contact form Brainbench MVP for C++ <> http://www.brainbench.com Back to top ma740988 Guest Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:00 pm    Post subject: Re: RoseRT to "clean c++" Quote: We are still using RoseRT to generate c++ code. Has anyone out there gone from using this tool another more convetional tool? I am interested in all hints and pointers. We went from Rose to Visio and now use UML strictly for documentation purposes. I'm just wondering how much of your C++ code is actually "generated" by Rose? We couldn't get it to do much more than just the headers, and even then there were serious deficiencies which had to be changed manually. Keeping the code in synch with the diagrams is pretty much a lost cause after you have t edit anything manually. After awhile, it got so bad that Rose was getting in the way more often than it helped, and we decided it wasn't worth the $$$ for the license fee. (Boy, was our boss glad about that!) And we haven't missed it. Now we use Visio just to draw up UML documentation of our code. Bob, what version of Rose RT are you referring to. The software is not readily accessible right now hence I can't recall the version I'm demo-ing but it seems fairly decent. The learning curve is farily steep (even after 1 week of training), but we have an IBM representative _literally_ right next to us for any issues we encounter. Back to top Petterson Mikael Guest Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:00 pm    Post subject: Re: RoseRT to "clean c++" Petterson Mikael wrote: Quote: Hi, We are still using RoseRT to generate c++ code. Has anyone out there gone from using this tool another more convetional tool? I am interested in all hints and pointers. cheers, //mikael Thanks for the hints and pointers. We generate somewhat between 40 - 70 % of the code in our applications. We use a lot of state transitions. I have not looked into the code in detail since it is stored in <filename>.rtlogpkg. Is it here where the c++ code is stored? 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