C++Talk.NET C++ language newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Re: Boost and the next C++ Standards          C++Talk.NET Forum Index -> C++ language, library and standards View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message James Kanze Guest Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2003 4:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Boost and the next C++ Standards [email]ron (AT) sensor (DOT) com[/email] ("Ron Natalie") writes: Quote: "Scott Robert Ladd" <scott (AT) coyotegulch (DOT) com> wrote in message news:pan.2003.06.30.00.48.26.743059 (AT) coyotegulch (DOT) com... What is the likelihood of the Boost libraries (in whole or in part) being integrated into the next C++ Standard? In whole, never. A lot of it doesn't merit inclusion. Hopefully some of the better parts (or similar behaving features) could be. Just to be clear (I think it is what Ron meant): some of it doesn't merit inclusion on such grounds as general interest. (CRC comes to mind.) That isn't meant as a criticism of the quality of the code or of the interface. -- James Kanze mailto:kanze (AT) gabi-soft (DOT) fr Conseils en informatique orientée objet/ Beratung in objektorientierter Datenverarbeitung 11 rue de Rambouillet, 78460 Chevreuse, France Tel. +33 1 41 89 80 93 --- [ comp.std.c++ is moderated. To submit articles, try just posting with ] [ your news-reader. If that fails, use mailto:std-c++@ncar.ucar.edu ] [ --- Please see the FAQ before posting. --- ] [ FAQ: http://www.jamesd.demon.co.uk/csc/faq.html ] Back to top llewelly Guest Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 1:36 am    Post subject: Re: Boost and the next C++ Standards [email]petebecker (AT) acm (DOT) org[/email] (Pete Becker) writes: Quote: Edward Diener wrote: Scott Robert Ladd wrote: What is the likelihood of the Boost libraries (in whole or in part) being integrated into the next C++ Standard? I keep getting asked the question, and wondered if any consensus had emerged among C++ standardizers. Some of the Boost libraries have already been accepted into the next C++ standard. Nothing has been accepted into the next standard. Some of the Boost librarys have been accepted for TR1, which is a technical report. The ISO web site describes a technical report as "An informative document containing information of a different kind from that normally published in a normative document." It's not a standard, and it isn't a commitment to what will go in any subsequent standard. I am getting the impression that we can say 3 things about the library TR: (a) It is informative. (b) It is not the standard. (c) It is produced by many of the same people who are on the standards committee. Correct? --- [ comp.std.c++ is moderated. To submit articles, try just posting with ] [ your news-reader. If that fails, use mailto:std-c++@ncar.ucar.edu ] [ --- Please see the FAQ before posting. --- ] [ FAQ: http://www.jamesd.demon.co.uk/csc/faq.html ] Back to top Pete Becker Guest Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 4:23 am    Post subject: Re: Boost and the next C++ Standards llewelly wrote: Quote: I am getting the impression that we can say 3 things about the library TR: (a) It is informative. (b) It is not the standard. (c) It is produced by many of the same people who are on the standards committee. c) is misleading. A TR is an official document produced by a standards committee. But it isn't a standard, just advice. -- Pete Becker Dinkumware, Ltd. (http://www.dinkumware.com) --- [ comp.std.c++ is moderated. To submit articles, try just posting with ] [ your news-reader. If that fails, use mailto:std-c++@ncar.ucar.edu ] [ --- Please see the FAQ before posting. --- ] [ FAQ: http://www.jamesd.demon.co.uk/csc/faq.html ] Back to top apm Guest Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2003 7:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Boost and the next C++ Standards [email]bdawes (AT) acm (DOT) org[/email] (Beman Dawes) wrote in message news:<70fa0367.0307030234.33c2b49c (AT) posting (DOT) google.com>... Quote: scott (AT) coyotegulch (DOT) com (Scott Robert Ladd) wrote in message news:<pan.2003.06.30.00.48.26.743059 (AT) coyotegulch (DOT) com>... What is the likelihood of the Boost libraries (in whole or in part) being integrated into the next C++ Standard? Ah! The committee needs to do some communicating. So... See http://std.dkuug.dk/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/library_technical_report.html Is this the only place where the information is? I could not get to this link. Maybe there is a problem with the site? Quote: For this Technical Report, the cutoff date has already passed. So except for two or three proposals still in the pipeline, the content of this first Library TR are firming up. Of the 12 proposals accepted so far, 10 grew out of the Boost libraries. Do you have a URL for what those 10 proposals were? -Andrew M. --- [ comp.std.c++ is moderated. To submit articles, try just posting with ] [ your news-reader. If that fails, use mailto:std-c++@ncar.ucar.edu ] [ --- Please see the FAQ before posting. --- ] [ FAQ: http://www.jamesd.demon.co.uk/csc/faq.html ] Back to top Andy Sawyer Guest Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2003 6:00 am    Post subject: Re: Boost and the next C++ Standards In article <d1a33011.0307120146.77d90fc (AT) posting (DOT) google.com>, on Sat, 12 Jul 2003 19:44:42 +0000 (UTC), [email]apm35 (AT) student (DOT) open.ac.uk[/email] (apm) wrote: Quote: bdawes (AT) acm (DOT) org (Beman Dawes) wrote in message news:<70fa0367.0307030234.33c2b49c (AT) posting (DOT) google.com>... Ah! The committee needs to do some communicating. So... See http://std.dkuug.dk/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/library_technical_report.html Is this the only place where the information is? I could not get to this link. Maybe there is a problem with the site? Works fine from here. I don't _think_ they're in an area whose access is restricted to committee members? Quote: For this Technical Report, the cutoff date has already passed. So except for two or three proposals still in the pipeline, the content of this first Library TR are firming up. Of the 12 proposals accepted so far, 10 grew out of the Boost libraries. Do you have a URL for what those 10 proposals were? It was the one given above :) Regards, Andy S. -- "Light thinks it travels faster than anything but it is wrong. No matter how fast light travels it finds the darkness has always got there first, and is waiting for it." -- Terry Pratchett, Reaper Man --- [ comp.std.c++ is moderated. To submit articles, try just posting with ] [ your news-reader. If that fails, use mailto:std-c++@ncar.ucar.edu ] [ --- Please see the FAQ before posting. --- ] [ FAQ: http://www.jamesd.demon.co.uk/csc/faq.html ] Back to top Francis Glassborow Guest Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 9:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Boost and the next C++ Standards In article <d6gf5rjg.fsf (AT) evo6 (DOT) com>, Andy Sawyer <andys (AT) despammed (DOT) com> writes Quote: Works fine from here. I don't _think_ they're in an area whose access is restricted to committee members? No but the url it was down for a time yesterday -- Francis Glassborow ACCU 64 Southfield Rd Oxford OX4 1PA +44(0)1865 246490 All opinions are mine and do not represent those of any organisation --- [ comp.std.c++ is moderated. To submit articles, try just posting with ] [ your news-reader. If that fails, use mailto:std-c++@ncar.ucar.edu ] [ --- Please see the FAQ before posting. --- ] [ FAQ: http://www.jamesd.demon.co.uk/csc/faq.html ] Back to top Ben Hutchings Guest Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2003 9:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Boost and the next C++ Standards In article <d6gf5rjg.fsf (AT) evo6 (DOT) com>, Andy Sawyer wrote: Quote: In article <d1a33011.0307120146.77d90fc (AT) posting (DOT) google.com>, on Sat, 12 Jul 2003 19:44:42 +0000 (UTC), [email]apm35 (AT) student (DOT) open.ac.uk[/email] (apm) wrote: [email]bdawes (AT) acm (DOT) org[/email] (Beman Dawes) wrote in message news:<70fa0367.0307030234.33c2b49c (AT) posting (DOT) google.com>... Ah! The committee needs to do some communicating. So... See http://std.dkuug.dk/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/library_technical_report.html Is this the only place where the information is? I could not get to this link. Maybe there is a problem with the site? Works fine from here. I don't _think_ they're in an area whose access is restricted to committee members? snip Slashdot linked to the post-Oxford mailings on Friday, overwhelming the server for a while. --- [ comp.std.c++ is moderated. To submit articles, try just posting with ] [ your news-reader. 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