C++Talk.NET C++ language newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Please use wxWidgets          C++Talk.NET Forum Index -> C++ language (comp.lang.c++) View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Tudman Todmorden Guest Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 3:05 pm    Post subject: Please use wxWidgets Please use wxWidgets, the multiplatform C++ class library. It's free, open-source and non-commercial. It's modeled after MFC but it produces code which can be compiled (using conditional compilation) into native code executables with the speed and UI look of the platform for which the compile is targeted. So the Windows executable looks like (and is) a real Windows program, the Mac OS X executable looks like (and is) a native Mac OS X program and the Linux executable is and looks like a real Linux/GTK+ application. It has been in development by a band of open-source programmers led by Julian Smart for over a decade (12 years to be exact)! So code in wxWidgets and your program will run on both Windows, Mac OS X and Linux, natively. Three for the price of one! And it's much easier to use than MFC. Dialogs and windows are easy to design using the DialogBlocks WYSIWYG UI creator (not free and commercial, but low cost). So prepare your software to be independent of platform yet still look 'native' and be prepared for the future. See http://www.wxwidgets.org for more information. (this has been a non-commercial presentation) Back to top Pete C Guest Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 3:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Please use wxWidgets Quote: It's modeled after MFC There's the problem. Same ugly macros, same ugly message maps, same ugly reimplementation of RTTI, same reimplemtation of basic container classes (wxArrayString? wtf? why not vector<string> ?) MFC was designed for a compiler that had very basic support for C++, and it shows. It's great that there's a Free alternative, and it will probably help immensley for porting older applications to other platforms. But I would certainly not use it to start a new project. QT is expensive but high quality and feature-rich (although I find its 'extensions' to the C++ language ugly). gtkmm is Free and very elegant from a C++ point of view, but although it is ostensibly cross-platform it seems to have a strong UNIX bias. Have I missed anything here? All three seem less than ideal. Sorry if I'm wandering off-topic. Back to top Mirek Fidler Guest Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 3:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Please use wxWidgets Pete C wrote: Quote: It's modeled after MFC There's the problem. Same ugly macros, same ugly message maps, same ugly reimplementation of RTTI, same reimplemtation of basic container classes (wxArrayString? wtf? why not vector<string> ?) MFC was designed for a compiler that had very basic support for C++, and it shows. It's great that there's a Free alternative, and it will probably help immensley for porting older applications to other platforms. But I would certainly not use it to start a new project. QT is expensive but high quality and feature-rich (although I find its 'extensions' to the C++ language ugly). gtkmm is Free and very elegant from a C++ point of view, but although it is ostensibly cross-platform it seems to have a strong UNIX bias. Have I missed anything here? :-) Ultimate++ http://upp.sf.net Mirek Back to top loufoque Guest Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 4:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Please use wxWidgets Pete C a écrit : Quote: it seems to have a strong UNIX bias. How is that a problem ? Back to top loufoque Guest Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 4:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Please use wxWidgets Tudman Todmorden a écrit : Quote: led by Julian Smart for over a decade (12 years to be exact)! 12 years ago we were in 1993. C++ was standardized in 1998. Therefore wxwidgets isn't "real" C++. Back to top Jacek Dziedzic Guest Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 5:00 pm    Post subject: Re: [OT] Please use wxWidgets loufoque wrote: Quote: Tudman Todmorden a écrit : led by Julian Smart for over a decade (12 years to be exact)! 12 years ago we were in 1993. C++ was standardized in 1998. Therefore wxwidgets isn't "real" C++. Why not? He could've been designing it on paper for 5 years, implementing it in Fortran 77 for the next 5 years and translating it into '"real" C++' during the last 2 years. - J. 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