C++Talk.NET C++ language newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  GUI recommend books          C++Talk.NET Forum Index -> C++ Language (Moderated) View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message phal Guest Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:12 pm    Post subject: GUI recommend books Hi, all I am very new to GUI or window programming in C++/MFC, or Window programming. I wish to work as C++ programmer, whether for MFC, Microsoft or Linux GUI but all about C++. It seems very stupid to some people who say about Java or dot Net is a better alternative. But I don't care.I have been programmed in C++ few years ago. 1. How long it need to take me to master Linux/Microsoft window programming in C++? One month posible or not? I wish you will give me some idea and recommend good book for me, thank very much. Phal [ See http://www.gotw.ca/resources/clcm.htm for info about ] [ comp.lang.c++.moderated. First time posters: Do this! ] Back to top Carlos Moreno Guest Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 10:32 am    Post subject: Re: GUI recommend books phal wrote: Quote: Hi, all I am very new to GUI or window programming in C++/MFC, or Window programming. I wish to work as C++ programmer, whether for MFC, Microsoft or Linux GUI but all about C++. It seems very stupid to some people who say about Java or dot Net is a better alternative. But I don't care.I have been programmed in C++ few years ago. 1. How long it need to take me to master Linux/Microsoft window programming in C++? One month posible or not? I wish you will give me some idea and recommend good book for me, thank very much. How much time is entirely dependent of your ability to learn quickly combined with the skills that you have acquired in the past. If you're talking about C++ books, I guess "Accelerated C++" would be a good alternative in your case. If you're talking about GUI programming in C++, I would actually recommend the wxWindows way -- you can visit their page, http://www.wxwidgets.org (or was it .com?), and/or you could buy the book written by the main creator of wxWindows/wxWidgets; "Cross-platform GUI Programming with wxWidgets". HTH, Carlos -- [ See http://www.gotw.ca/resources/clcm.htm for info about ] [ comp.lang.c++.moderated. First time posters: Do this! ] Back to top Michael D. Crawford Guest Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 9:26 am    Post subject: Re: GUI recommend books phal wrote: Quote: I wish you will give me some idea and recommend good book for me, thank very much. Phal, Before you purchase any programming book, whether its about C++, GUI or anything else, check to see whether it has been reviewed by the Association of C and C++ Users at http://www.accu.org/ Their book review section is at: http://www.accu.org/bookreviews/public/index.htm Browse through the subject index and you'll surely find some good books that will help you advance your career. I have long been of the opinion that good technical books are the best investment any software engineer can make in his or her career. I know from my own experience that my books have been far more valuable to me than any hardware or software I have ever purchased. -- Michael D. Crawford [email]crawford (AT) goingware (DOT) com[/email] Read "GoingWare's Bag of Programming Tricks" at: http://www.goingware.com/tips/ [ See http://www.gotw.ca/resources/clcm.htm for info about ] [ comp.lang.c++.moderated. First time posters: Do this! ] Back to top Paavo Helde Guest Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:31 pm    Post subject: Re: GUI recommend books "phal" <betterdie (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in news:1131699979.628183.162050 @o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com: Quote: 1. How long it need to take me to master Linux/Microsoft window programming in C++? One month posible or not? Mastering? 6 months - more or less the same as with any other complex language. hth Paavo [ See http://www.gotw.ca/resources/clcm.htm for info about ] [ comp.lang.c++.moderated. First time posters: Do this! ] Back to top Carlos Moreno Guest Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 8:05 am    Post subject: Re: GUI recommend books Paavo Helde wrote: Quote: 1. How long it need to take me to master Linux/Microsoft window programming in C++? One month posible or not? Mastering? 6 months - more or less the same as with any other complex language. 6 *months*?? More like 6 *years* -- Do a Google search for the essay "Teach yourself programming in 10 years" and you'll see what I'm talking about :-) Carlos -- [ See http://www.gotw.ca/resources/clcm.htm for info about ] [ comp.lang.c++.moderated. First time posters: Do this! ] Back to top Francis Glassborow Guest Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:57 pm    Post subject: Re: GUI recommend books In article <rxPef.43130$wc.998535 (AT) wagner (DOT) videotron.net>, Carlos Moreno <moreno_at_mochima_dot_com (AT) mailinator (DOT) com> writes Quote: Paavo Helde wrote: 1. How long it need to take me to master Linux/Microsoft window programming in C++? One month posible or not? Mastering? 6 months - more or less the same as with any other complex language. 6 *months*?? More like 6 *years* -- Do a Google search for the essay "Teach yourself programming in 10 years" and you'll see what I'm talking about Or you can try my guideline 'Anyone claiming mastery hasn't. An expert is someone who knows his limitations.' After 6 months of study of C++ (or GUI programming or...) you should realise how much there is still to learn. After 6 years you will be amazed at how ignorant you after 6 months. And after 10 years you will find that what you knew five years before is severely dated. Mastery is a willingness to go on learning. One of the joys of C++ (also one of its curses) is the new ways bright people find to use it. -- Francis Glassborow ACCU Author of 'You Can Do It!' see http://www.spellen.org/youcandoit For project ideas and contributions: http://www.spellen.org/youcandoit/projects [ See http://www.gotw.ca/resources/clcm.htm for info about ] [ comp.lang.c++.moderated. First time posters: Do this! ] Back to top Paavo Helde Guest Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 10:29 pm    Post subject: Re: GUI recommend books Carlos Moreno <moreno_at_mochima_dot_com (AT) mailinator (DOT) com> wrote in news:rxPef.43130$wc.998535 (AT) wagner (DOT) videotron.net: Quote: Mastering? 6 months - more or less the same as with any other complex language. 6 *months*?? More like 6 *years* -- Do a Google search for the essay "Teach yourself programming in 10 years" and you'll see what I'm talking about Yeah, it all depends on how the "mastering" is defined. I just meant that each time I have learned a new programming language, after 6 months I have reached the level where I feel myself more or less confident (though I have to admit that in case of C++ this confidence was not fully justified . I totally agree with the 10 years article on the broader scale! Paavo [ See http://www.gotw.ca/resources/clcm.htm for info about ] [ comp.lang.c++.moderated. First time posters: Do this! ] Back to top Carlos Moreno Guest Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:30 am    Post subject: Re: GUI recommend books Paavo Helde wrote: Quote: Mastering? 6 months - more or less the same as with any other complex language. 6 *months*?? More like 6 *years* -- Do a Google search for the essay "Teach yourself programming in 10 years" and you'll see what I'm talking about :-) Yeah, it all depends on how the "mastering" is defined. I just meant that each time I have learned a new programming language, after 6 months I have reached the level where I feel myself more or less confident (though I have to admit that in case of C++ this confidence was not fully justified . Hehehehe... I most definitely hear you! As Francis mentioned, after some 5 years, I realized just how deeply wrong I was about believing I was "more or less master" in C++ after 6 months (even though I had the "justification" of 6+ years programming in C, two of which I had been teaching it -- that makes you feel like it's not really 6 months). And now, after 11 years or so... well, let's say that each time I read this newsgroup I find at least two or three posts that remind me that I am, and quite possibly always will be, 10 years away from real mastery!! :-) Cheers, Carlos -- [ See http://www.gotw.ca/resources/clcm.htm for info about ] [ comp.lang.c++.moderated. 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