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Chicken McNuggets
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 Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:50 am Post subject: Re: The death of Google Groups |
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On 30/07/2012 21:52, Malcolm McLean wrote:
| Quote: | I need to sack Google groups as well. I did have Outlook
Express set up as a mailreader years ago. But it insisted
on storing everything on the hard drive. But the new
interface is unbearable.
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Use Mozilla Thunderbird and nntp.aioe.org to access newsgroups. No
password required. Job done  . |
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James Kuyper
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| Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:52 am Post subject: Re: The death of Google Groups |
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On 07/31/2012 07:23 AM, jgh (AT) arcade (DOT) demon.co.uk wrote:
| Quote: | Chicken McNuggets wrote:
Use Mozilla Thunderbird and nntp.aioe.org to access newsgroups.
No password required. Job done .
F:\Mozilla\Thunderbird.exe
Access denied.
Executing files from removable media is not allowed.
Next suggestion.
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What system are you using that prohibits execution of programs on
removable media? Given that you are using such a system, why are you
trying to execute from removable media? Why not install thunderbird on
non-removable media? The answers to those questions could help someone
suggest a workable alternative.
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James Kuyper |
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Noob
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| Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:00 am Post subject: Re: The death of Google Groups |
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jgh wrote:
| Quote: | Chicken McNuggets wrote:
Use Mozilla Thunderbird and nntp.aioe.org to access newsgroups.
No password required. Job done .
F:\Mozilla\Thunderbird.exe
Access denied.
Executing files from removable media is not allowed.
Next suggestion.
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Do you just need someone to hold your hand?
http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/thunderbird_portable/ |
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Guest
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| Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:23 am Post subject: Re: The death of Google Groups |
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Chicken McNuggets wrote:
| Quote: | Use Mozilla Thunderbird and nntp.aioe.org to access newsgroups.
No password required. Job done .
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F:\Mozilla\Thunderbird.exe
Access denied.
Executing files from removable media is not allowed.
Next suggestion.
JGH |
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Keith Thompson
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| Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:04 pm Post subject: Re: The death of Google Groups |
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Chicken McNuggets <chicken (AT) mcnuggets (DOT) com> writes:
| Quote: | On 30/07/2012 21:52, Malcolm McLean wrote:
I need to sack Google groups as well. I did have Outlook
Express set up as a mailreader years ago. But it insisted
on storing everything on the hard drive. But the new
interface is unbearable.
Use Mozilla Thunderbird and nntp.aioe.org to access newsgroups. No
password required. Job done .
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I like news.eternal-september.org, also free. For my news client,
I use gnus, which runs under emacs (you'll like gnus if and only
if you like emacs).
I think nntp.aioe.org is used by a lot of spammers; as a result, some
people ignore all articles from that server.
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Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u (AT) mib (DOT) org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Will write code for food.
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister" |
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Robert Wessel
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| Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:08 am Post subject: Re: The death of Google Groups |
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On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 07:52:03 -0400, James Kuyper
<jameskuyper (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:
| Quote: | On 07/31/2012 07:23 AM, jgh (AT) arcade (DOT) demon.co.uk wrote:
Chicken McNuggets wrote:
Use Mozilla Thunderbird and nntp.aioe.org to access newsgroups.
No password required. Job done .
F:\Mozilla\Thunderbird.exe
Access denied.
Executing files from removable media is not allowed.
Next suggestion.
What system are you using that prohibits execution of programs on
removable media? Given that you are using such a system, why are you
trying to execute from removable media? Why not install thunderbird on
non-removable media? The answers to those questions could help someone
suggest a workable alternative.
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Windows will do that, but the policy is usually only enforced by IT
departments. And in that case, he's probably not allowed to install
things on the non-removable drives either. |
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James Kuyper
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| Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:47 am Post subject: Re: The death of Google Groups |
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On 08/01/2012 01:08 AM, Robert Wessel wrote:
| Quote: | On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 07:52:03 -0400, James Kuyper
jameskuyper (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:
On 07/31/2012 07:23 AM, jgh (AT) arcade (DOT) demon.co.uk wrote:
Chicken McNuggets wrote:
Use Mozilla Thunderbird and nntp.aioe.org to access newsgroups.
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I would strongly recommend news.eternal-september.org instead. Many
spammers use nntp.aioe.org, and as a result, many spam filters
automatically exclude all messages from their servers.
| Quote: | No password required. Job done .
F:\Mozilla\Thunderbird.exe
Access denied.
Executing files from removable media is not allowed.
Next suggestion.
What system are you using that prohibits execution of programs on
removable media? Given that you are using such a system, why are you
trying to execute from removable media? Why not install thunderbird on
non-removable media? The answers to those questions could help someone
suggest a workable alternative.
Windows will do that, but the policy is usually only enforced by IT
departments. And in that case, he's probably not allowed to install
things on the non-removable drives either.
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If that's the issue, then ask IT to install it. If, for some reason,
they object to thunderbird, ask them if there's any other news reader
that they do approve of.
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James Kuyper |
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Fabrizio J Bonsignore
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| Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:54 pm Post subject: Re: The death of Google Groups |
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On Jul 31, 5:50 am, Chicken McNuggets <chic...@mcnuggets.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On 30/07/2012 21:52, Malcolm McLean wrote:
I need to sack Google groups as well. I did have Outlook
> Express set up as a mailreader years ago. But it insisted
> on storing everything on the hard drive. But the new
> interface is unbearable.
Use Mozilla Thunderbird and nntp.aioe.org to access newsgroups. No
password required. Job done .
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I feel watched when I use Thunderbird. Particularly after the second
prompt for mail password.
Danilo J Bonsignore |
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Kenneth Brody
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| Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:06 pm Post subject: Re: The death of Google Groups |
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On 8/1/2012 6:47 AM, James Kuyper wrote:
| Quote: | On 08/01/2012 01:08 AM, Robert Wessel wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 07:52:03 -0400, James Kuyper
jameskuyper (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:
On 07/31/2012 07:23 AM, jgh (AT) arcade (DOT) demon.co.uk wrote:
Chicken McNuggets wrote:
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F:\Mozilla\Thunderbird.exe
Access denied.
Executing files from removable media is not allowed.
[...]
Windows will do that, but the policy is usually only enforced by IT
departments. And in that case, he's probably not allowed to install
things on the non-removable drives either.
If that's the issue, then ask IT to install it. If, for some reason,
they object to thunderbird, ask them if there's any other news reader
that they do approve of.
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What are the odds that, given such an IT department, their answer would be
"just use IE9 and Google Groups"?
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Kenneth Brody |
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James Kuyper
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| Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:16 pm Post subject: Re: The death of Google Groups |
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On 08/01/2012 04:06 PM, Kenneth Brody wrote:
| Quote: | On 8/1/2012 6:47 AM, James Kuyper wrote:
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If that's the issue, then ask IT to install it. If, for some reason,
they object to thunderbird, ask them if there's any other news reader
that they do approve of.
What are the odds that, given such an IT department, their answer would be
"just use IE9 and Google Groups"?
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Fairly good, but he'll never know for certain until he tries. I have
occasionally been pleasantly surprised by my IT department's flexibility. |
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Nick Keighley
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:50 am Post subject: Re: The death of Google Groups |
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On Aug 1, 9:06 pm, Kenneth Brody <kenbr...@spamcop.net> wrote:
| Quote: | On 8/1/2012 6:47 AM, James Kuyper wrote:
On 08/01/2012 01:08 AM, Robert Wessel wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 07:52:03 -0400, James Kuyper
jameskuy...@verizon.net> wrote:
On 07/31/2012 07:23 AM, j...@arcade.demon.co.uk wrote:
Chicken McNuggets wrote:
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| Quote: | F:\Mozilla\Thunderbird.exe
Access denied.
Executing files from removable media is not allowed.
[...]
Windows will do that, but the policy is usually only enforced by IT
departments. And in that case, he's probably not allowed to install
things on the non-removable drives either.
If that's the issue, then ask IT to install it. If, for some reason,
they object to thunderbird, ask them if there's any other news reader
that they do approve of.
What are the odds that, given such an IT department, their answer would be
"just use IE9 and Google Groups"?
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or: "what's a newsgroup and why would you need to access one during
work time?" |
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William Ahern
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:32 pm Post subject: Re: The death of Google Groups |
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Kenneth Brody <kenbrody (AT) spamcop (DOT) net> wrote:
| Quote: | On 8/1/2012 6:47 AM, James Kuyper wrote:
On 08/01/2012 01:08 AM, Robert Wessel wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 07:52:03 -0400, James Kuyper
jameskuyper (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:
On 07/31/2012 07:23 AM, jgh (AT) arcade (DOT) demon.co.uk wrote:
Chicken McNuggets wrote:
[...]
F:\Mozilla\Thunderbird.exe
Access denied.
Executing files from removable media is not allowed.
[...]
Windows will do that, but the policy is usually only enforced by IT
departments. And in that case, he's probably not allowed to install
things on the non-removable drives either.
If that's the issue, then ask IT to install it. If, for some reason,
they object to thunderbird, ask them if there's any other news reader
that they do approve of.
What are the odds that, given such an IT department, their answer would be
"just use IE9 and Google Groups"?
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I've heard that Easynews has a very nice Web interface. |
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| Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 4:47 am Post subject: Re: 17 years that Win95 substituted Win3.1: publish full sou |
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Hi,
On Thursday, July 26, 2012 2:46:52 PM UTC-5, Fabrizio J Bonsignore wrote:
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Windows 3.1 was **officially** superseded by Windows 95 in 1995. Now
it is 17 years. Seventeen years is a typical period of protection for
products which may extended some ways, but now that Win 3.1 turned
into a plethora of more superadvanced OSs, for historical, cultural,
technical reasons Microsoft ought to follow the popular open source
model and publish full, complete, compilable source, data files,
driver files, etc for the popular old OS and its utilities, along with
the necessary compilers, linkers and other tools to make it work. This
would not only preserve the venerable OS but would also trigger a boom
in development and business for the company itself, besides being a
service to the general public.
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MS probably has tons of copyrights they can't legally clear for that. Similar
to IBM and OS/2, who has already denied open sourcing any of it. Besides,
which would you want, Win 3.0, 3.1, 3.11? Somewhat different quirks.
Most old OSes don't like newer hardware, esp. higher RAM amounts, which often
confuse them, so you need lots of tweaks and patches. Plus they even lack
drivers, which is more painful. And it's quite hard finding software for older
OSes too. At least, most software these days seems to go out of its way to
only support the "big three", which is a pet peeve of mine.
Anyways, to bring it back on topic to C (barely), you already have enough free
OSes and compilers to play with: Minix (ACK), FreeDOS (OpenWatcom),
ELKS (dev86), Linux (GCC), FreeBSD (Clang), etc. All of those OSes are, more
or less, written in C.
Personally, I like FreeDOS a lot, and DOS is what Win 3.1 ran atop anyways. So
there's still a lot of DOS software out there (though waning in popularity).
So if you're desperate for nostalgia, try that. If you demand a GUI, try
OpenGem (GEM) or the recent port of FLTK to DJGPP. |
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Heinrich Wolf
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| Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:26 am Post subject: Re: 17 years that Win95 substituted Win3.1: publish full sou |
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<rugxulo (AT) gmail (DOT) com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:df6707ed-bf57-4e64-86b1-54cae114c80f (AT) googlegroups (DOT) com...
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| Quote: | Most old OSes don't like newer hardware, esp. higher RAM amounts, which
often
confuse them, so you need lots of tweaks and patches. Plus they even lack
drivers, which is more painful. And it's quite hard finding software for
older
OSes too. At least, most software these days seems to go out of its way to
only support the "big three", which is a pet peeve of mine.
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I took my old Diskettes from MSDOS 4.1 up to MSDOS 6 and I took my old 5,25"
Floppy hardware. So I was able to create image files of them. Then I
installed DOS 6 in VMware player. However my DOS 6 is an update and only my
DOS 4.01 is a full version. DOS 4.01 does not install in VMware player. So I
looked in the world wide web and found a DOS 6 boot disk on WinFuture. Then
I installed my old Win 3.0 and my old Win 3.1 . I also found a Super VGA
driver for Win 3.1 on the world wide web. Sometimes it is funny to test a
Delphi 1 application on Win 3.1 .
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Heiner |
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Noob
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| Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:48 am Post subject: Re: Salsa20 test vectors |
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[ Adding comp.lang.c so they can correct me ]
Paul Rubin wrote:
| Quote: | Cristiano wrote:
static const char sigma[16] = "expand 32-byte k";
static const char tau[16] = "expand 16-byte k";
This makes a 32-byte block in memory whose contents are
|expand 32-byte kexpand 16-byte k|
where the vertical bars delimit block.
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This is incorrect. The compiler has no obligation to store
sigma and tau contiguously.
In other words, assert(tau == sigma + sizeof sigma) may fail. |
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